Curse

Gonzo · Apr 27, 2006, 09:51 AM // 09:51

If 10/10 sundering wasnt overprices enough, imagine how expensive this mod will get. Anyway, the release of factions will truely stir up game econemy, maybe level the field a bit. What do you think?

Muse of Shadows · Apr 27, 2006, 09:54 AM // 09:54

I think that:

1) 10/10 sundering was an aboslutly worthless pice of shit
2) 10/10 sundering will now be about as common as the -3 (10%) shields have become, after they where boosted
3) sundering may acualy be simi-worthwhile now
4) I still hate sundering and will not use it

Reasons sundering was worthless, and now MAY be useful:

1) on an average roll, asuming you attack 10 times, the old sundering was gaining a aprox. 1% armor penetration per hit
2) -1% armor with a physical weapon, on a fully equipped warrior, translates to -1 ar, and even less vs. casters
3) the new sundering (max), asuming on an average roll, and attacking 5 times, is now giving an aprox. 4% armor penetration
4) -4% armor with a physical weapon, on a fully equipped warrior, translates to -4 ar, and once again less vs. casters
5) -40 ar roughly translates to double damage, so on an average hit, the new sundering will do 1.5x damage, every 5 swings.

I still prefer vampyric/zealous, however the updated sundering is 4x as effective as the old one, and is acualy useful now.

Wildi · Apr 27, 2006, 10:02 AM // 10:02

10/10 was a joke

RTSFirebat · Apr 27, 2006, 10:37 AM // 10:37

20/20 isn't that much better as well. Not sure why people like these mods so much anyhow.

Jas D · Apr 27, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40

ZOMG PURPLE DINOSAUR H4X!!

..Sundering still sucks.

Kabale · Apr 27, 2006, 11:08 AM // 11:08

The price will be the same (relative to how much it cost pre-Factions) as before; it just needs an acceptable price tag for a maxed upgrade...no matter how crap it is :P

Kidney Licker · Apr 27, 2006, 11:54 AM // 11:54

Anyone know if Victo's Battle Axe will get any sort of upgrade?

Chris1986 · Apr 27, 2006, 11:56 AM // 11:56

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Originally Posted by Kidney Licker

Anyone know if Victo's Battle Axe will get any sort of upgrade?

Lets hope not.

XeNoGeArZ · Apr 27, 2006, 11:57 AM // 11:57

lets go for 33/33

Kidney Licker · Apr 27, 2006, 11:59 AM // 11:59

Just heard, existing axes not upgraded but they now drop with 20/20.

Heh so are the 10/10's collectors items?

Hunter Sharparrow · Apr 27, 2006, 01:56 PM // 13:56

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Heh so are the 10/10's collectors items?

Doubt it. They will just lose in value. All that hard work farming and/or money spent for nothing huh? I never used green myself, didn't like the fact that you could do anything with the mods just for a weapon with a unique name and look. And they're not even unique anymore with how many there are floating around. I don't care if a certain skin is rare or not I just get it because I like the look of it but when the skin comes at a cost of not being able to change the weapons mods? Forget it. Quality over looks any day.

Jetdoc · Apr 27, 2006, 02:32 PM // 14:32

I highly doubt that the 10/10's will be converted to 20/20's, whether on greens or existing other mods. Otherwise, what would you do with 9/10's?

I wonder if they'll buff the furious mod as well to increase it to 20%?

Witchblade · Apr 27, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

at last we got this mod

with 20/20 and a nice amount of strength + the new sentinel sentinel set
strength has finally an use other than Dolyak Signet

at 20 .. the AP has a "real" effect

Count to Potato · Apr 27, 2006, 03:15 PM // 15:15

ONe week ago i sold a 10/10 sundering for 30k, luckily o got it sold before the update.

milias · Apr 27, 2006, 03:21 PM // 15:21

I did some calculations, 10/10 sundering was about 0.25 extra damage per hit on average, 20/20 sundering is ~1 extra damage per hit on average. Personally, I would still go with vampiric if you're looking for damage.

Witchblade · Apr 27, 2006, 03:26 PM // 15:26

u should check guildwiki

GranDeWun · Apr 27, 2006, 03:46 PM // 15:46

20/20 sundering is slightly more than +8% average damage, assuming opponent has AL 100.

Cybah · Apr 27, 2006, 04:08 PM // 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabale

The price will be the same (relative to how much it cost pre-Factions) as before; it just needs an acceptable price tag for a maxed upgrade...no matter how crap it is :P

remember: -3 10% sucked as hell

anet changed to: -5 20%

and people are selling these items WAY TO HIGH! I guess 20/20 will be sold for 100k+ the first weeks....

zulu123 · Apr 27, 2006, 04:16 PM // 16:16

I also dont like the sundering upgrade over zealous or vampyric. But a thought just occured to me. I see the calculations above that the increase in average damage is nearly worthless. But what if we look at this as spike damage once in 10 blows (in case of 10/10) and once in 5 blows (in case of 20/20)?

Because in PvP spike damage is definitely worth more than in PvE. What is the extra damage with a 20/20 when that sundering occurs?

Cybah · Apr 27, 2006, 04:22 PM // 16:22

is there 20% furious too now?

omg I'm so pissed off. gw economy destroyed. dragos flatbow will now drop with 20/20 too. i bought it for 35k last days. grrrrrrrrrrr!

and one of the most beautiful swords (katana) is collectable with 15^50 req9.

thats just a joke from anet. GRRRRRRRR!=)/%=)Q%/%=)UQ%